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    <description>Mike Boyd interviews successful families and their advisors to learn how they steward their wealth across generations, managing succession issues to "keep it in the family".   
Very few family businesses do the work and even fewer make it beyond the third generation.   
Follow along to learn about family governance structures, family office investing, succession planning and raising happy, healthy and enterprising children of wealth.  
Learn more and subscribe: https://www.businessoffamily.net/
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    <itunes:subtitle>Multigenerational wealth creation involves so much more than just capital accumulation. The most successful families cultivate and collect values, stories, knowledge and resources to pass on to the next generation.  The systems and processes to do this are very intentional. Very few do the work and even fewer make it beyond the 3rd generation. Find out how with The Business of Family.</itunes:subtitle>
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Very few family businesses do the work and even fewer make it beyond the third generation.   
Follow along to learn about family governance structures, family office investing, succession planning and raising happy, healthy and enterprising children of wealth.  
Learn more and subscribe: https://www.businessoffamily.net/
Follow Mike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MikeBoyd
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  <title>Dato’ Loy Teik Ngan - From Billionaire's Son to Losing it All and Starting Over  [The Business of Family]</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Dato’ Loy Teik Ngan is the eldest son of a well-known entrepreneur who built one of the largest business conglomerates in Malaysia, Teik Ngan took over the rein of his family company upon his father’s demise. Within a year, the sprawling business empire that took 35 years to build, collapsed under the weight of huge debts amidst the 1998 Asian financial crisis.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Dato’ Loy Teik Ngan, the eldest son of a well-known entrepreneur who built one of the largest business conglomerates in Malaysia, Teik Ngan took over the rein of his family company upon his father’s demise. Within a year, the sprawling business empire that took 35 years to build, collapsed under the weight of huge debts amidst the 1998 Asian financial crisis.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;14 years passed before all personal liabilities of his family from the days of the financial crisis were eventually settled. In the process, he built a new family business, in education. &lt;a href="https://www.taylors.edu.my/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Taylor’s Education Group&lt;/a&gt; is today the largest private education group in Malaysia. Focused on premium education, Taylor’s K-12 schools &amp;amp; higher education institutions are widely recognised as the top education institutions in their respective categories. Taylor’s institutions operate in Malaysia, Singapore &amp;amp; Vietnam.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The struggles during the tough financial period of his life shaped Teik Ngan’s stewardship views for family business. Appreciating unity, his family has introduced concepts and activities that promote collaborative conversations &amp;amp; strengthen relationships. He is dedicated to the development &amp;amp; transition of his family’s next generation of 13.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Teik Ngan’s family are active members of the &lt;a href="https://fbnasia.org/en/loy-teik-ngan/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Family Business Network Asia&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; he is the current President of the Board.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Standout Quotes:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"We had to learn how to live together; we had to form a Living Together Committee"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"One thing that normally goes wrong when families end up in dispute is lack of proper communication"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"The family unit is important and sometimes we are subservient to the larger family"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"We try to always emphasize that the family comes before the business, the business allows us the blessing to be able to have the lifestyle that we have, but we have to work together as a family first"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"Do you want to be Rich or do you want to be King?"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"I would encourage my kids to understand the context in why they do what they do... What is it all for? Wealth is fleeting; wealth is something that we cannot take with us when we die"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dato’ informed the bank he was indebted to, that they could either push him into bankruptcy or loan him more money to rebuild and pay back the company debts.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A living together committee had to be formed to help the large family live in one compound.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Knowing that lack of communication was a common cause of family disputes prompted the introduction of Forums to build positive communication.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dato’ shares that the most important thing that has been done as leader of the family business in recent times is Annual Vacations.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The difference between "Family Business" and "Business family" is that in 'Family Business', the family comes before the business.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guided by the shared family values, one of which is "Achievement and Learning", Dato’ explains how the next generation is encouraged to follow their passion even when it may be outside the family business.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The concept of a "Personal Portfolio" in creating an education plan for the family&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The difference between being rich and being a king is that a king has ultimate authority, loyal subjects and lots he has to look after but being rich is just going for performance, the best point is somewhere between both&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dato’ explains the concept of the "Deathwalk", an exercise involving walking into our death, looking back at our current age, and giving ourselves the advice we would.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Episode Timeline:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:49] Introducing Dato’ Loy and 'The Taylor's Education group'&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:59] Dato’ narrates the events surrounding his transition into his father's company, which was is debt before the overwhelming challenges brought about by the Asian financial crisis&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[07:02] Dato’ admits he was ill-prepared for the scale of complexity involved in the business, worsened by the lack of adequate resources to surmount the crisis at the time. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:43] From a collapsed family business to a thriving one&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[13:45] Dato’ describes in detail the current size and scale of the family business&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[14:50] How did these experiences shape your views towards stewardship of the family business?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:50] The living together committee&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:28] Dato’ explains the different strategies employed to keep the family harmony&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[29:25] Differentiating between "Family Business" and "Business family"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[33:35] Are you actively planning and anticipating succession with the next generation?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[35:16] The concept of a "Personal Portfolio" in creating an education plan for the family&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[40:53] In the last 5 years, what new belief, behavior, or habit has most improved your family business?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[43:26] Dato's letter to his kids: 'the Deathwalk'&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;*&lt;em&gt;For more episodes go to *&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Dato’ Loy Teik Ngan, the eldest son of a well-known entrepreneur who built one of the largest business conglomerates in Malaysia, Teik Ngan took over the rein of his family company upon his father’s demise. Within a year, the sprawling business empire that took 35 years to build, collapsed under the weight of huge debts amidst the 1998 Asian financial crisis.</p>

<p>14 years passed before all personal liabilities of his family from the days of the financial crisis were eventually settled. In the process, he built a new family business, in education. <a href="https://www.taylors.edu.my/index.html" rel="nofollow">The Taylor’s Education Group</a> is today the largest private education group in Malaysia. Focused on premium education, Taylor’s K-12 schools &amp; higher education institutions are widely recognised as the top education institutions in their respective categories. Taylor’s institutions operate in Malaysia, Singapore &amp; Vietnam.</p>

<p>The struggles during the tough financial period of his life shaped Teik Ngan’s stewardship views for family business. Appreciating unity, his family has introduced concepts and activities that promote collaborative conversations &amp; strengthen relationships. He is dedicated to the development &amp; transition of his family’s next generation of 13.</p>

<p>Teik Ngan’s family are active members of the <a href="https://fbnasia.org/en/loy-teik-ngan/" rel="nofollow">Family Business Network Asia</a> &amp; he is the current President of the Board.</p>

<p><strong>Standout Quotes:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>&quot;We had to learn how to live together; we had to form a Living Together Committee&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;One thing that normally goes wrong when families end up in dispute is lack of proper communication&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;The family unit is important and sometimes we are subservient to the larger family&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;We try to always emphasize that the family comes before the business, the business allows us the blessing to be able to have the lifestyle that we have, but we have to work together as a family first&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;Do you want to be Rich or do you want to be King?&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;I would encourage my kids to understand the context in why they do what they do... What is it all for? Wealth is fleeting; wealth is something that we cannot take with us when we die&quot;</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Dato’ informed the bank he was indebted to, that they could either push him into bankruptcy or loan him more money to rebuild and pay back the company debts.</li>
<li>A living together committee had to be formed to help the large family live in one compound.</li>
<li>Knowing that lack of communication was a common cause of family disputes prompted the introduction of Forums to build positive communication.</li>
<li>Dato’ shares that the most important thing that has been done as leader of the family business in recent times is Annual Vacations.</li>
<li>The difference between &quot;Family Business&quot; and &quot;Business family&quot; is that in &#39;Family Business&#39;, the family comes before the business.</li>
<li>Guided by the shared family values, one of which is &quot;Achievement and Learning&quot;, Dato’ explains how the next generation is encouraged to follow their passion even when it may be outside the family business.</li>
<li>The concept of a &quot;Personal Portfolio&quot; in creating an education plan for the family</li>
<li>The difference between being rich and being a king is that a king has ultimate authority, loyal subjects and lots he has to look after but being rich is just going for performance, the best point is somewhere between both</li>
<li>Dato’ explains the concept of the &quot;Deathwalk&quot;, an exercise involving walking into our death, looking back at our current age, and giving ourselves the advice we would.</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Episode Timeline:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>[00:49] Introducing Dato’ Loy and &#39;The Taylor&#39;s Education group&#39;</li>
<li>[01:59] Dato’ narrates the events surrounding his transition into his father&#39;s company, which was is debt before the overwhelming challenges brought about by the Asian financial crisis</li>
<li>[07:02] Dato’ admits he was ill-prepared for the scale of complexity involved in the business, worsened by the lack of adequate resources to surmount the crisis at the time. </li>
<li>[08:43] From a collapsed family business to a thriving one</li>
<li>[13:45] Dato’ describes in detail the current size and scale of the family business</li>
<li>[14:50] How did these experiences shape your views towards stewardship of the family business?</li>
<li>[20:50] The living together committee</li>
<li>[23:28] Dato’ explains the different strategies employed to keep the family harmony</li>
<li>[29:25] Differentiating between &quot;Family Business&quot; and &quot;Business family&quot;</li>
<li>[33:35] Are you actively planning and anticipating succession with the next generation?</li>
<li>[35:16] The concept of a &quot;Personal Portfolio&quot; in creating an education plan for the family</li>
<li>[40:53] In the last 5 years, what new belief, behavior, or habit has most improved your family business?</li>
<li>[43:26] Dato&#39;s letter to his kids: &#39;the Deathwalk&#39;</li>
</ul>

<p>*<em>For more episodes go to *</em><br>
<a href="https://www.businessoffamily.net/" rel="nofollow">BusinessOfFamily.net</a></p>

<p>Sign up for The Business of Family Newsletter at <a href="https://www.businessoffamily.net/newsletter" rel="nofollow">https://www.businessoffamily.net/newsletter</a></p>

<p>Follow Mike on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeBoyd" rel="nofollow">@MikeBoyd</a></p>

<p>If you feel it&#39;s appropriate, I&#39;d so appreciate you taking 30 seconds to <a href="http://getpodcast.reviews/id/1525326745" rel="nofollow">Leave a Review on iTunes</a>, I receive a notification of each review. Thank you!</p><p>Special Guest: Dato’ Loy Teik Ngan.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://newsletter.businessoffamily.net/">The Business of Family Newsletter</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://newsletter.businessoffamily.net/">The newsletter compliments the podcast with subscriber-only articles, bonus content and a great list of book recommendations.  
 
 
    
</a></li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Taylor&#39;s Education Group" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.taylors.edu.my/index.html">Taylor's Education Group</a> &mdash; The Taylor’s Education Group is today the largest private education group in Malaysia. Focused on premium education</li><li><a title="Loy Teik Ngan - Family Business Network Asia" rel="nofollow" href="https://fbnasia.org/en/loy-teik-ngan/">Loy Teik Ngan - Family Business Network Asia</a> &mdash; Teik Ngan’s family are active members of the Family Business Network Asia &amp; he sits on its board</li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Dato’ Loy Teik Ngan, the eldest son of a well-known entrepreneur who built one of the largest business conglomerates in Malaysia, Teik Ngan took over the rein of his family company upon his father’s demise. Within a year, the sprawling business empire that took 35 years to build, collapsed under the weight of huge debts amidst the 1998 Asian financial crisis.</p>

<p>14 years passed before all personal liabilities of his family from the days of the financial crisis were eventually settled. In the process, he built a new family business, in education. <a href="https://www.taylors.edu.my/index.html" rel="nofollow">The Taylor’s Education Group</a> is today the largest private education group in Malaysia. Focused on premium education, Taylor’s K-12 schools &amp; higher education institutions are widely recognised as the top education institutions in their respective categories. Taylor’s institutions operate in Malaysia, Singapore &amp; Vietnam.</p>

<p>The struggles during the tough financial period of his life shaped Teik Ngan’s stewardship views for family business. Appreciating unity, his family has introduced concepts and activities that promote collaborative conversations &amp; strengthen relationships. He is dedicated to the development &amp; transition of his family’s next generation of 13.</p>

<p>Teik Ngan’s family are active members of the <a href="https://fbnasia.org/en/loy-teik-ngan/" rel="nofollow">Family Business Network Asia</a> &amp; he is the current President of the Board.</p>

<p><strong>Standout Quotes:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>&quot;We had to learn how to live together; we had to form a Living Together Committee&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;One thing that normally goes wrong when families end up in dispute is lack of proper communication&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;The family unit is important and sometimes we are subservient to the larger family&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;We try to always emphasize that the family comes before the business, the business allows us the blessing to be able to have the lifestyle that we have, but we have to work together as a family first&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;Do you want to be Rich or do you want to be King?&quot;</li>
<li>&quot;I would encourage my kids to understand the context in why they do what they do... What is it all for? Wealth is fleeting; wealth is something that we cannot take with us when we die&quot;</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Dato’ informed the bank he was indebted to, that they could either push him into bankruptcy or loan him more money to rebuild and pay back the company debts.</li>
<li>A living together committee had to be formed to help the large family live in one compound.</li>
<li>Knowing that lack of communication was a common cause of family disputes prompted the introduction of Forums to build positive communication.</li>
<li>Dato’ shares that the most important thing that has been done as leader of the family business in recent times is Annual Vacations.</li>
<li>The difference between &quot;Family Business&quot; and &quot;Business family&quot; is that in &#39;Family Business&#39;, the family comes before the business.</li>
<li>Guided by the shared family values, one of which is &quot;Achievement and Learning&quot;, Dato’ explains how the next generation is encouraged to follow their passion even when it may be outside the family business.</li>
<li>The concept of a &quot;Personal Portfolio&quot; in creating an education plan for the family</li>
<li>The difference between being rich and being a king is that a king has ultimate authority, loyal subjects and lots he has to look after but being rich is just going for performance, the best point is somewhere between both</li>
<li>Dato’ explains the concept of the &quot;Deathwalk&quot;, an exercise involving walking into our death, looking back at our current age, and giving ourselves the advice we would.</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Episode Timeline:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>[00:49] Introducing Dato’ Loy and &#39;The Taylor&#39;s Education group&#39;</li>
<li>[01:59] Dato’ narrates the events surrounding his transition into his father&#39;s company, which was is debt before the overwhelming challenges brought about by the Asian financial crisis</li>
<li>[07:02] Dato’ admits he was ill-prepared for the scale of complexity involved in the business, worsened by the lack of adequate resources to surmount the crisis at the time. </li>
<li>[08:43] From a collapsed family business to a thriving one</li>
<li>[13:45] Dato’ describes in detail the current size and scale of the family business</li>
<li>[14:50] How did these experiences shape your views towards stewardship of the family business?</li>
<li>[20:50] The living together committee</li>
<li>[23:28] Dato’ explains the different strategies employed to keep the family harmony</li>
<li>[29:25] Differentiating between &quot;Family Business&quot; and &quot;Business family&quot;</li>
<li>[33:35] Are you actively planning and anticipating succession with the next generation?</li>
<li>[35:16] The concept of a &quot;Personal Portfolio&quot; in creating an education plan for the family</li>
<li>[40:53] In the last 5 years, what new belief, behavior, or habit has most improved your family business?</li>
<li>[43:26] Dato&#39;s letter to his kids: &#39;the Deathwalk&#39;</li>
</ul>

<p>*<em>For more episodes go to *</em><br>
<a href="https://www.businessoffamily.net/" rel="nofollow">BusinessOfFamily.net</a></p>

<p>Sign up for The Business of Family Newsletter at <a href="https://www.businessoffamily.net/newsletter" rel="nofollow">https://www.businessoffamily.net/newsletter</a></p>

<p>Follow Mike on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeBoyd" rel="nofollow">@MikeBoyd</a></p>

<p>If you feel it&#39;s appropriate, I&#39;d so appreciate you taking 30 seconds to <a href="http://getpodcast.reviews/id/1525326745" rel="nofollow">Leave a Review on iTunes</a>, I receive a notification of each review. Thank you!</p><p>Special Guest: Dato’ Loy Teik Ngan.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://newsletter.businessoffamily.net/">The Business of Family Newsletter</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://newsletter.businessoffamily.net/">The newsletter compliments the podcast with subscriber-only articles, bonus content and a great list of book recommendations.  
 
 
    
</a></li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Taylor&#39;s Education Group" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.taylors.edu.my/index.html">Taylor's Education Group</a> &mdash; The Taylor’s Education Group is today the largest private education group in Malaysia. Focused on premium education</li><li><a title="Loy Teik Ngan - Family Business Network Asia" rel="nofollow" href="https://fbnasia.org/en/loy-teik-ngan/">Loy Teik Ngan - Family Business Network Asia</a> &mdash; Teik Ngan’s family are active members of the Family Business Network Asia &amp; he sits on its board</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Caroline Link - 4th Generation Heir to B.Grimm, one of Thailand’s Oldest Business Institutions [The Business of Family]</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Caroline Link is a 4th generation family member who is being groomed to run B.Grimm, one of Thailand’s oldest family-owned industrial conglomerates. Caroline grew up in a family where the common driving value and belief was to conduct business with compassion and in harmony with nature. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Caroline Link, a 4th generation family member who is being groomed to run &lt;a href="https://bgrimmgroup.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;B.Grimm&lt;/a&gt;, one of Thailand’s oldest family-owned industrial conglomerates. Caroline grew up in a family where the common driving value and belief was to conduct business with compassion and in harmony with nature. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Through multiple generations of management, and multiple business areas and geographies, B.Grimm (which was founded in Bangkok in 1878), has managed to cultivate a spirit of innovation and empowerment among its staff.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Standout Quotes:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;“All the family members that are not in the business are just as important because they also form who you are, form your opinions, and influence you in some way” – [Caroline Link]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;“I think the most important thing that we invest in, is our reputation and that is really the most important thing that we have” – [Caroline Link]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;“Being a family business; that really helped in a way because these strong values, they weren’t only passed on when you became a leader within the company, but they were lived in the household” – [Caroline Link]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;“Keep working on yourself, and if you want things to change you have to initiate it and change yourself” – [Caroline Link]&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Key Takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Caroline explains that the resilience of the family business over time was born from the entrepreneurial spirit in the leaders, as well as a strong culture that is value and purpose-driven&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;A family business is different from normal business; families come from a place of love, harmony, and support, and it’s important to look at this dynamic&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Caroline describes that the most important thing the business invests in is “Reputation”, and a lot of the reputation is based on the company's purpose and culture.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Following an exercise aimed at creating an in-depth definition of the company as a whole, it was realized that the key to the success of the company, even from the founders, was an inherent drive towards helping society and creating value.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Caroline also shares that a workshop on family values revealed the two main values in her family to be ”Contribution” and “Sense of Freedom”&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;It is important to develop a strong sense of self-awareness; keep working on yourself, and if you want things to change you have to initiate it and change yourself&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Find what makes you happy professionally and gives you meaning, and make a contribution&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Episode Timeline:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[00:48] Meeting the guest; Caroline Link, and the B.Grimm company&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[01:33] A brief history on the founding of the B.Grimm Company up to the 3rd generation&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[06:48] Caroline shares that she was lucky her interests were aligned with many fields that the family business was already involved in.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[08:40] How has the family business remained resilient for such a long time?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[09:53] How the family has governed itself successfully&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[15:52] Diversifying the family wealth outside of the business&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[16:54] Caroline describes that the family strives to build an archive of the business history even though so much of it has been lost to wars and a fire accident.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[20:23] What is the most worthwhile investment you have ever made?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[22:01] Who is B.Grimm?&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[23:20] The two main family values shared by Caroline’s family&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[25:17] The scale of the B.Grimm enterprise&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[28:06] Caroline’s thoughts on the children being a part of the family business&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;[31:58] A letter from Caroline to her Kids&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;For more episodes go to&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.businessoffamily.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;BusinessOfFamily.net&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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    <![CDATA[<p>Caroline Link, a 4th generation family member who is being groomed to run <a href="https://bgrimmgroup.com/" rel="nofollow">B.Grimm</a>, one of Thailand’s oldest family-owned industrial conglomerates. Caroline grew up in a family where the common driving value and belief was to conduct business with compassion and in harmony with nature. </p>

<p>Through multiple generations of management, and multiple business areas and geographies, B.Grimm (which was founded in Bangkok in 1878), has managed to cultivate a spirit of innovation and empowerment among its staff.</p>

<p><strong>Standout Quotes:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>“All the family members that are not in the business are just as important because they also form who you are, form your opinions, and influence you in some way” – [Caroline Link]</li>
<li>“I think the most important thing that we invest in, is our reputation and that is really the most important thing that we have” – [Caroline Link]</li>
<li>“Being a family business; that really helped in a way because these strong values, they weren’t only passed on when you became a leader within the company, but they were lived in the household” – [Caroline Link]</li>
<li>“Keep working on yourself, and if you want things to change you have to initiate it and change yourself” – [Caroline Link]</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong>:</p>

<ul>
<li>Caroline explains that the resilience of the family business over time was born from the entrepreneurial spirit in the leaders, as well as a strong culture that is value and purpose-driven</li>
<li>A family business is different from normal business; families come from a place of love, harmony, and support, and it’s important to look at this dynamic</li>
<li>Caroline describes that the most important thing the business invests in is “Reputation”, and a lot of the reputation is based on the company&#39;s purpose and culture.</li>
<li>Following an exercise aimed at creating an in-depth definition of the company as a whole, it was realized that the key to the success of the company, even from the founders, was an inherent drive towards helping society and creating value.</li>
<li>Caroline also shares that a workshop on family values revealed the two main values in her family to be ”Contribution” and “Sense of Freedom”</li>
<li>It is important to develop a strong sense of self-awareness; keep working on yourself, and if you want things to change you have to initiate it and change yourself</li>
<li>Find what makes you happy professionally and gives you meaning, and make a contribution</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Episode Timeline:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>[00:48] Meeting the guest; Caroline Link, and the B.Grimm company</li>
<li>[01:33] A brief history on the founding of the B.Grimm Company up to the 3rd generation</li>
<li>[06:48] Caroline shares that she was lucky her interests were aligned with many fields that the family business was already involved in.</li>
<li>[08:40] How has the family business remained resilient for such a long time?</li>
<li>[09:53] How the family has governed itself successfully</li>
<li>[15:52] Diversifying the family wealth outside of the business</li>
<li>[16:54] Caroline describes that the family strives to build an archive of the business history even though so much of it has been lost to wars and a fire accident.</li>
<li>[20:23] What is the most worthwhile investment you have ever made?</li>
<li>[22:01] Who is B.Grimm?</li>
<li>[23:20] The two main family values shared by Caroline’s family</li>
<li>[25:17] The scale of the B.Grimm enterprise</li>
<li>[28:06] Caroline’s thoughts on the children being a part of the family business</li>
<li>[31:58] A letter from Caroline to her Kids</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>For more episodes go to</strong> <br>
<a href="https://www.businessoffamily.net/" rel="nofollow">BusinessOfFamily.net</a></p>

<p>Sign up for The Business of Family Newsletter at <a href="https://www.businessoffamily.net/newsletter" rel="nofollow">https://www.businessoffamily.net/newsletter</a></p>

<p>Follow Mike on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeBoyd" rel="nofollow">@MikeBoyd</a></p>

<p>If you feel it&#39;s appropriate, I&#39;d so appreciate you taking 30 seconds to <a href="http://getpodcast.reviews/id/1525326745" rel="nofollow">Leave a Review on iTunes</a>, I receive a notification of each review. Thank you!</p><p>Special Guest: Caroline Link.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://newsletter.businessoffamily.net/">The Business of Family Newsletter</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://newsletter.businessoffamily.net/">The newsletter compliments the podcast with subscriber-only articles, bonus content and a great list of book recommendations.  
 
 
    
</a></li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="EN B.Grimm Group – Doing business with compassion for the development of civilisation in harmony with nature." rel="nofollow" href="https://bgrimmgroup.com/">EN B.Grimm Group – Doing business with compassion for the development of civilisation in harmony with nature.</a> &mdash; B.Grimm is one of Thailand’s oldest family-owned industrial conglomerates which Caroline Link is being groomed to run.</li><li><a title="Marking 140 years of success" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nationthailand.com/lifestyle/30348027">Marking 140 years of success</a> &mdash; A FAMILY-OWNED multinational conglomerate founded in 1878 and active in everything from healthcare to real estate, e-commerce, and transport; B Grimm is celebrating 140 years of success with a series of initiatives, among them an exhibition and a book.</li><li><a title="Prestige Online - 40 Under 40 - Caroline Link" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.prestigeonline.com/th/profiles/caroline-link-40-under-40/">Prestige Online - 40 Under 40 - Caroline Link</a> &mdash; Caroline Link is the fourth-generation heir to B.Grimm, one of Thailand’s oldest business institutions, carrying a 142-year-old tradition of “doing business with compassion.”</li><li><a title="The 4 virtues of B.Grimm" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1309159/the-4-virtues-of-b-grimm">The 4 virtues of B.Grimm</a> &mdash; By marrying profit, progress and social good, Harald Link has found the secret to keeping the oldest companies eternally young.</li><li><a title="Caroline Link | Tatler Thailand" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.thailandtatler.com/people/caroline-link">Caroline Link | Tatler Thailand</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Caroline Link, a 4th generation family member who is being groomed to run <a href="https://bgrimmgroup.com/" rel="nofollow">B.Grimm</a>, one of Thailand’s oldest family-owned industrial conglomerates. Caroline grew up in a family where the common driving value and belief was to conduct business with compassion and in harmony with nature. </p>

<p>Through multiple generations of management, and multiple business areas and geographies, B.Grimm (which was founded in Bangkok in 1878), has managed to cultivate a spirit of innovation and empowerment among its staff.</p>

<p><strong>Standout Quotes:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>“All the family members that are not in the business are just as important because they also form who you are, form your opinions, and influence you in some way” – [Caroline Link]</li>
<li>“I think the most important thing that we invest in, is our reputation and that is really the most important thing that we have” – [Caroline Link]</li>
<li>“Being a family business; that really helped in a way because these strong values, they weren’t only passed on when you became a leader within the company, but they were lived in the household” – [Caroline Link]</li>
<li>“Keep working on yourself, and if you want things to change you have to initiate it and change yourself” – [Caroline Link]</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong>:</p>

<ul>
<li>Caroline explains that the resilience of the family business over time was born from the entrepreneurial spirit in the leaders, as well as a strong culture that is value and purpose-driven</li>
<li>A family business is different from normal business; families come from a place of love, harmony, and support, and it’s important to look at this dynamic</li>
<li>Caroline describes that the most important thing the business invests in is “Reputation”, and a lot of the reputation is based on the company&#39;s purpose and culture.</li>
<li>Following an exercise aimed at creating an in-depth definition of the company as a whole, it was realized that the key to the success of the company, even from the founders, was an inherent drive towards helping society and creating value.</li>
<li>Caroline also shares that a workshop on family values revealed the two main values in her family to be ”Contribution” and “Sense of Freedom”</li>
<li>It is important to develop a strong sense of self-awareness; keep working on yourself, and if you want things to change you have to initiate it and change yourself</li>
<li>Find what makes you happy professionally and gives you meaning, and make a contribution</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Episode Timeline:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>[00:48] Meeting the guest; Caroline Link, and the B.Grimm company</li>
<li>[01:33] A brief history on the founding of the B.Grimm Company up to the 3rd generation</li>
<li>[06:48] Caroline shares that she was lucky her interests were aligned with many fields that the family business was already involved in.</li>
<li>[08:40] How has the family business remained resilient for such a long time?</li>
<li>[09:53] How the family has governed itself successfully</li>
<li>[15:52] Diversifying the family wealth outside of the business</li>
<li>[16:54] Caroline describes that the family strives to build an archive of the business history even though so much of it has been lost to wars and a fire accident.</li>
<li>[20:23] What is the most worthwhile investment you have ever made?</li>
<li>[22:01] Who is B.Grimm?</li>
<li>[23:20] The two main family values shared by Caroline’s family</li>
<li>[25:17] The scale of the B.Grimm enterprise</li>
<li>[28:06] Caroline’s thoughts on the children being a part of the family business</li>
<li>[31:58] A letter from Caroline to her Kids</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>For more episodes go to</strong> <br>
<a href="https://www.businessoffamily.net/" rel="nofollow">BusinessOfFamily.net</a></p>

<p>Sign up for The Business of Family Newsletter at <a href="https://www.businessoffamily.net/newsletter" rel="nofollow">https://www.businessoffamily.net/newsletter</a></p>

<p>Follow Mike on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeBoyd" rel="nofollow">@MikeBoyd</a></p>

<p>If you feel it&#39;s appropriate, I&#39;d so appreciate you taking 30 seconds to <a href="http://getpodcast.reviews/id/1525326745" rel="nofollow">Leave a Review on iTunes</a>, I receive a notification of each review. Thank you!</p><p>Special Guest: Caroline Link.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://newsletter.businessoffamily.net/">The Business of Family Newsletter</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://newsletter.businessoffamily.net/">The newsletter compliments the podcast with subscriber-only articles, bonus content and a great list of book recommendations.  
 
 
    
</a></li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="EN B.Grimm Group – Doing business with compassion for the development of civilisation in harmony with nature." rel="nofollow" href="https://bgrimmgroup.com/">EN B.Grimm Group – Doing business with compassion for the development of civilisation in harmony with nature.</a> &mdash; B.Grimm is one of Thailand’s oldest family-owned industrial conglomerates which Caroline Link is being groomed to run.</li><li><a title="Marking 140 years of success" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nationthailand.com/lifestyle/30348027">Marking 140 years of success</a> &mdash; A FAMILY-OWNED multinational conglomerate founded in 1878 and active in everything from healthcare to real estate, e-commerce, and transport; B Grimm is celebrating 140 years of success with a series of initiatives, among them an exhibition and a book.</li><li><a title="Prestige Online - 40 Under 40 - Caroline Link" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.prestigeonline.com/th/profiles/caroline-link-40-under-40/">Prestige Online - 40 Under 40 - Caroline Link</a> &mdash; Caroline Link is the fourth-generation heir to B.Grimm, one of Thailand’s oldest business institutions, carrying a 142-year-old tradition of “doing business with compassion.”</li><li><a title="The 4 virtues of B.Grimm" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1309159/the-4-virtues-of-b-grimm">The 4 virtues of B.Grimm</a> &mdash; By marrying profit, progress and social good, Harald Link has found the secret to keeping the oldest companies eternally young.</li><li><a title="Caroline Link | Tatler Thailand" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.thailandtatler.com/people/caroline-link">Caroline Link | Tatler Thailand</a></li></ul>]]>
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